Ieri è stata pubblicata sul sito di The Remnant Newspaper la trascrizione di una lunga intervista (a cura di M.J. Matt) al card. Burke in merito ai prossimi passi nell’eventualità di una monizione a Bergoglio. Sebbene qua e là emergano macchie di vaticanosecondismo, ne riportiamo i passaggi principali in inglese (grassettature nostre) con un breve commento a cura di Radio Spada:

as I stated from the beginning, the very form of Amoris Laetitia, and, actually, the words of the Pope within the document, indicate that it is not an exercise of the papal magisterium.

Già alle prime battute il card. Burke indica Amoris Laetitia (in seguito “AL”) come non appartenente al magistero Pontificio.


So certainly, without the clarification of these questions, there is a potential of scandal. With regard to the question of heresy, one has to be very attentive to material heresy and to formal heresy. In other words, material heresy: are there actual statements in the text which are materially heretical? Are they contradictory to the Catholic Faith? Formal heresy: did the person—namely the person of the pope who wrote the document—intend to proclaim heretical teachings? And the last thing, I don’t believe myself at all. And I think with regard to the first question, the language and so forth is confusing and it’s difficult to say that these confusing statements are materially heretical. But they need to be clarified, and to refuse to clarify them could lead people into error, into radical thinking with regard to some very serious questions.

Qui Burke distingue tra eresia materiale e formale, il testo confuso di AL non permette di dire se si tratti di eresia materiale ma va chiarito, e – sebbene non venga detto – pare alludere al fatto che se Bergoglio fosse pertinace si andrebbe verso l’eresia formale.


if no clarification comes, not only for the Church but for the whole world?
Cardinal Burke: It would be very devastating.

Un non chiarimento sarebbe devastante.


And so what he wrote in that letter simply means that this is his personal understanding of the matter. But that letter hardly could be considered an exercise of the papal magisterium. And so, it’s a painful situation in which to be involved but we simply have to press forward to clarify the matter.

Qui Burke si riferisce alla lettera inviata da Bergoglio al vescovo di Buenos Aires, in cui si consente la comunione ai divorziati. Ma dato che anche in questo caso Bergoglio non pare volersi esprimere come Papa, risulta necessario un chiarimento (che eventualmente renda formale l’eresia?, ci chiediamo noi).


I don’t even think about it. I mean, certainly, it’s possible. It’s happened, historically, that a cardinal has lost his title. But I don’t think about it because I know what my duty is and I can’t be distracted from it by these kinds of thoughts – you know, worrying about whether I’m going to be in some way persecuted for defending the truth. As I said, one person said to me: “Aren’t you afraid to insist on these matters?” And I said that what I’m afraid of is to have to appear before Our Lord at the Last Judgment and having to say to Him: “No, I didn’t defend You when You were being attacked, the truth that You taught was being betrayed.” And so, I just don’t give it any thought.

La domanda a cui risponde qui riguarda il rischio di perdita della berretta cardinalizia per queste sue scelte. Burke risponde di non volerci pensare e di temere di più il giudizio di Dio.


MJM: Well what you just said, Your Eminence, is something I pray becomes contagious in the life of the Church and at the highest levels. But you know, you have a lot of support. In fact, in expressing their support for you and the other three cardinals, a number of high profile pastors and academics and professors, both here and in Europe, signed a letter of support a few weeks ago in which they pointed out that, as a result of the widespread confusion and disunity following the promulgation of AL, the universal Church is now entering a “gravely critical moment in her history” that, according to them, has alarming similarities with the great Arian crisis of the Fourth Century. I’m curious to know: Do you agree with that? Do you think this has the potential to escalate into something similar to the Arian crisis?
Cardinal Burke: Well, it does, and in the sense that as long as confusion spreads more and more about a fundamental truth of the Faith. Now in the case of the Arian crisis, it had to do with the two natures in the one person of Our Lord Jesus Christ. But here we’re dealing also with a very fundamental truth, two fundamental truths really: The truth about Holy Matrimony and the truth about the Holy Eucharist. And if this confusion doesn’t stop, we will have a situation where you will have within the Church large bodies of people who don’t believe the Catholic Faith, as, for instance, St. Ambrose encountered when he became Bishop in Milan. So you know, it’s a serious matter, and I don’t think that they’re being extreme by making that observation (a comparison to Arianism). I don’t think they’re being extreme at all.

Burke dice che non è sbagliato fare un paragone tra la confusione attuale e quella dell’arianesimo del quarto secolo. Entrambe riguardano aspetti molto importanti: Santo Matrimonio e Santa Eucarestia.


MJM: So what’s next, Your Eminence? If Pope Francis fails to answer your dubia, what’s the next course of action? You’ve spoken of the possibility of elevating this to a formal correction. But what exactly does that look like?
Cardinal Burke: Well, it doesn’t look too much differently than the dubia. In other words, the truths that seem to be called into question by AL would simply be placed alongside what the Church has always taught and practiced and annunciated in the official teaching of the Church. And in this way these errors would be corrected.

La correzione formale consisterà, secondo Burke, nella affermazione di ciò che la Chiesa ha sempre annunciato, con una procedura non diversa da quella usata per i dubia.



Radio Spada segue la questione “Amoris Laetitia” e “dubia”/monizioni canoniche con attenzione. Ecco i nostri articoli sul tema:


Monizioni canoniche: alcuni cardinali stanno per compiere un ‘atto di correzione formale’ verso Bergoglio?
Cardinali “ribelli”, resistenza e scissione dell’atomo
Una ‘guerra civile’ in atto nella Chiesa?